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Title: Battle of Shanghai 1932


Moping4U - August 25, 2004 03:29 AM (GMT)
On Jan 28th 1932, elements of the Japanese Marines and local Japanese nationals launched an attack on the positions of the Cantonese 19th Route army that garrisoned Shanghai. The marines/militia were quickly fought back to the docks, but reinforcements were called, with the Japanese army and navy attacking Shanghai in growing numbers. Chiang Kaishek finally sent reinforcements to the 19th Route with the 2 divisions of his elite German-trained 5th army from Nanking. Heavy fighting continued in the urban streets as the Japanese were forced send in for more reinforcements. The battle ended in early Feb. after the Japanese overrun the Chinese flank. The Chinese retreated some dozen miles for a new defense line. The Japanese declare victory. The battle left Chapei in ruins, thousands of civilians killed and many more homeless, and created a perfect diversion from the takeover of Manchuria.

About the 19th Route, they were definitely not Chiang's favorites. They were formed during the days of the Northern Expedition, under the command of Jiang Guangnai, and deputy command of Cai Tingkai. They earlier fought with the Communists but were defeated and then sent to garrison Shanghai. Apparently they were very nationalistic and anti-Japanese. They were said to be only armed with rifles and machine guns, and had straw coolie-style hats in contrast to the German-style steel helmets of the Fifth army. The 5th army was orignally formed from the National guard units , they were German-trained and supposedly when the fighting broke out, they almost mutinied when they were held back from the fighting. The German advisers also want to see how their trained recruits perform in the battle. Finally Chiang allowed them to join the battle. They had the best weapons, equipment of the Chinese armed forces. German weapons, uniforms, and training. Also the revenue Guards/Custom Police(?) also fought alongside with the 19th and 5th.

But can anyone tell me the specifics of the 1932 Shanghai battle? What were the casualties of both sides(the 19th Route army/Fifth army and the Japanese forces)? Any particular moments of valour? The comparison between the troops of the 19th, the 5th and the Japanese? The impressions left on both sides of each other's military quality/capability?


Manchuconqueror - August 25, 2004 09:38 PM (GMT)
I heard taht the Chinese fought bravely in Shanghai...which made Japs angry...which made their spoil on Nanking

Andrew Yip - August 25, 2004 09:44 PM (GMT)
Actually, what you just said what stated in the book, The Rape of Nanking by Iris Chang. I believe this element and another, to weaken the Chinese will to fight were the 2 key elements to the Rape of Nanking.

Moping4U - August 26, 2004 02:14 AM (GMT)
The Shanghai battle you both were talking about was the 1937 one, I was talking about the 1932. This one happened after a Chinese boycott and the killing of a Japanese monk.




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